Craigo79 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Played with wb until I liked it. Link to comment
colinbm Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Nice Craig, I need to do some of this. Link to comment
otoien Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Very nice and detailed. Any before and after images with regards to UV cut filter? I would have thought the UVIR filter of a stock camera sensor would have cut most of the UV? (There can be fluorescence in the lens though as we have shown here before). Link to comment
Craigo79 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 I have no before and after pics but it made a big difference to my 5d Mark IV using the same lens as i have in the past though..... Next time i do something like this i will try with and without the filter. Link to comment
Doug A Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 @Craigk79amazing image. The colors and detail are superb. I find a Tiffen UV Haze 2 filter gives purer colors vs no filter, on a Pentax 645 A 120 macro. Surprising since heavily multi coated Pentax lenses usually pass less UV to begin with. The filter was worth the small investment. Thanks for sharing, Doug A Link to comment
dabateman Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Looks good. I should compare a golden kiwi to a regular one some day. The kiwi berries also are quite bright. Link to comment
Craigo79 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, Doug A said: @Craigk79amazing image. The colors and detail are superb. I find a Tiffen UV Haze 2 filter gives purer colors vs no filter, on a Pentax 645 A 120 macro. Surprising since heavily multi coated Pentax lenses usually pass less UV to begin with. The filter was worth the small investment. Thanks for sharing, Doug A Thank you , Mine is a vivitar UV Haze Link to comment
Andy Perrin Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 I think that while it’s true that the multi coated modern lenses pass too little UV relative to the visible light in sunshine to be worth using as UV-only lenses, they also pass more than enough in the 400-390 range to mess up the colors in a UVIVF scenario where there is nothing but the weak visible fluorescence to compete with. If the visible competition is wimpy, the UV appears stronger by comparison, even in spite of the sensitivity differences and the low lens transmission. For UVIVF and also the 405nm laser, I’ve been using the Tiffen haze 2E filter which cuts at 420nm. Not even the laser gets through! Link to comment
colinbm Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Hi Craig, I was surprised that the Vivitar haze cut the UV this well, but it is still just passing some of the UV into the fluorescence. You will get a slightly better fluorescent result with a filter that cuts closer to 410nm. Link to comment
JMC Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 With my stock 5DSR, the internal filters had quite a leak at 365nm - So it doesn't surprise me that adding a UV cut filter makes a difference to your pictures. Not all cameras have this, but I always advocate using a UV cut filter on the lens for fluorescence work. Link to comment
colinbm Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 But with Craig's Vivitar Haze filter he is still getting a leak at 395nm which will fluoresce many things. Link to comment
Craigo79 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Thank you Colin Link to comment
Craigo79 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 I have just found in my stash a Hoya UV 0 77mm Link to comment
colinbm Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Greatly reduces any 395nm leak... Link to comment
Craigo79 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Baby Cos leaf... Used the Hoya filter here. Link to comment
Craigo79 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Colin that filter I am guessing is very expensive? Link to comment
colinbm Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Just down the road from you.... https://crkphotoimaging.com.au/products/00zeist*uvfl/zeiss-t--uv-filter Link to comment
colinbm Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Its like a McDonalds ice-cream & Streets Blue Ribbon ice-cream.... Link to comment
Andrea B. Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 The basic rule of UV-induced visible fluorescence photography is Double Filtration. Don't trust that your illumination source only outputs UV. Don't trust your internal camera filtration only records VIS. I've meself made quite a number of vis fluor photos without one of the necessary filters, but I *always* mention any missing filter so that everyone is clear about what they are seeing even though probably 80% of the time (wild guess!), you get the same photo with only 1 filter that you would get with Double Filtration. Just depends on the gear being used. Double Filtration Rule also holds for UV-induced IR photos. And for any X-induced Y photos. Double Filtration Rule can be tossed for artistic effects, of course. Just say what you've used or not used. Craig, the Kiwi fluor photo is beautiful !! Link to comment
Craigo79 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 9 hours ago, colinbm said: Just down the road from you.... https://crkphotoimaging.com.au/products/00zeist*uvfl/zeiss-t--uv-filter My good friends brother works for that store. I actually won a voucher through them a few years ago with sigma Australia Thanks for the link may come in handy should I decide to get more serious about this. 3 hours ago, Andrea B. said: The basic rule of UV-induced visible fluorescence photography is Double Filtration. Don't trust that your illumination source only outputs UV. Don't trust your internal camera filtration only records VIS. I've meself made quite a number of vis fluor photos without one of the necessary filters, but I *always* mention any missing filter so that everyone is clear about what they are seeing even though probably 80% of the time (wild guess!), you get the same photo with only 1 filter that you would get with Double Filtration. Just depends on the gear being used. Double Filtration Rule also holds for UV-induced IR photos. And for any X-induced Y photos. Double Filtration Rule can be tossed for artistic effects, of course. Just say what you've used or not used. Craig, the Kiwi fluor photo is beautiful !! Thank you , I really am quite surprised at the difference from not using to using a uv cut on the lens Link to comment
photoni Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 16 hours ago, Craigk79 said: Played with wb until I liked it. These photos are amazing, I would like to try too I have a contact on Flickr called "Craig B." taking UVIVF photos ... is it you or a namesake. Link to comment
Craigo79 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 1 hour ago, photoni said: These photos are amazing, I would like to try too I have a contact on Flickr called "Craig B." taking UVIVF photos ... is it you or a namesake. Thank you. That would be Craig Burrows I think he does lovely work. I am very new to this. Just did a lavender Link to comment
OlDoinyo Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 It's amazing how many of those "UV" filters are passing 80%+ at 350, isn't it? I have always favored filters labeled "skylight" for more reliable UV blocking. It would be interesting to see a graphical comparison of some of those. Link to comment
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