colinbm Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Borot-Moloney, Colin (2021) An Australian Version of Hypochaeris radicata L. (Asteraceae) Cat's Ear. Flower photographed in ultraviolet and visible light. LINK_to_be_added Location: Queensland, Australia11 Aug 2021Wildflower Synonyms:Hypochoeris radicata L. orth. var.Other Common Names:False DandelionHairy Cat's-earComment:My First UVA Dandelion. And it was a false one! Please see Post #17 below for Visible reference photos of this flower. Reference:1. Weeds of Australia (acc 15 Aug 2021) Hypochaeris radicata L.Editor's Note: I think a "weed" is in the eye of the beholder. Cat's Ear is a wildflower, IMHO. 2. Blum, A.G. (2014) Hypochaeris radicata L. (Asteraceae) Cat's Ear. Flowers photographed in ultraviolet and visible light. .Camera: Sigma fp, full spectrum, full frame, Bayer CFA,Lens: Canon 40mm pancake lensFilter: Baader U filter & 20mm macro extension,White Balance: CWB with teflon/PTFE film on the lens first of.Lighting: Illuminated with two UVA 365nm LED torches. Link to comment
ulf Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Nice example of the low saturation that is expected from a narrow band light source like a LED.The rather short UV-reach of the EF-40mm lens is in this case not the source of a low saturation, as the narrow peak of the LED dominates. I do not think this is a Dandelion though, but some kind of Hawkweed.I might be wrong as there are many types of Dandelions.The ones I normally see here has a hollow rather thin walled stem that purge a milky liquid when cut. To identify it better images of the leafs and the flower's rear side is needed. I think there are even more species of Hawkweeds.For a proper identification we need help form someone trained in botany. Link to comment
colinbm Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 Here is one off the net of what we have 'down under'.... Dandelion (Taraxacum officinale) https://live-product...=862&height=575 See Andrea's post below Link to comment
ulf Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 That Dandelion is common here too, but I think the one you showed in UV is a different type and not a Dandelion.I might be wrong. It even happens to me from time to time. Link to comment
nfoto Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just a picture of the flower head from above will not help much. The Daisy Family Asteraceae is the largest one of vascular plants comprising 25.000+ species. We need habitus images, ie. whole plant, its stem, foliage, and preferably, the phyllaries ('bracts') underneath the composite head. Whether this is dandelion, hawkweed, or something entirely different, the UV image is pale and lacks the usual contrast these species provide. Link to comment
Andy Perrin Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 He used torches for illumination which may explain the paleness. Link to comment
nfoto Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Paleness of false yellow, for sure, but not explaining the lack of deep black. Link to comment
Stefano Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 The center should be darker with a wider black area? Link to comment
colinbm Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 You want it cooked like this.... ? Link to comment
colinbm Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 I try to post my images SOOC with minimal processing. Link to comment
Andy Perrin Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Many hawkweeds we have cataloged have smaller black centers. The contrast may be a question of lighting and post processinghttp://www.ultravioletphotography.com/content/index.php/topic/893-pilosella-caespitosa-field-hawkweed/http://www.ultravioletphotography.com/content/index.php/topic/127-hieracium-kalmii-canada-hawkweed/http://www.ultravioletphotography.com/content/index.php/topic/894-pilosella-officinarum-mouse-ear-hawkweed/http://www.ultravioletphotography.com/content/index.php/topic/912-hieracium-umbellatum-narrow-leaved-hawkweed/http://www.ultravioletphotography.com/content/index.php/topic/1236-hieracium-scabrum-rough-hawkweed/ Link to comment
Stefano Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 There are a lot of species that look all similar. Dandelion-like flowers are common here, but I am not sure if they are actual dandelions or not. I think mine are a bit darker inside. Some are completely black in UV. Link to comment
nfoto Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 The center should be darker with a wider black area? Not wider per se, but definitively much darker. As stated (repeatedly) before, Asteraceae is the largest of all families of vascular plants and many of the yellow-flowered representatives appear not false-yellow, but more or less black, in UV. Some species originally described as hawkweeds, now often segregated as the neighbour genus Pilosella, are good examples as most are visible bright yellow and entirely UV black. The exception being the red-flowered Pilosella spp. which sometimes display the traditional false-yellow/UV-black centre. Link to comment
nfoto Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 You want it cooked like this.... ? Colin: cooking requires the right ingredients. Link to comment
Andy Perrin Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Colin could have used sunshine and a lens with a wider bandpass but we don’t all use the ideal equipment for every single shot. This one is nice and sharp at least. I assume the trade off was between using a lens with autofocus and one with a deeper UV cutoff. And torch was used to cut the exposure. Link to comment
Andrea B. Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Col, just show us the leaves or the entire plant. Link to comment
colinbm Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 As requested.......Dandelion patch & Dandelion flower head..... Link to comment
Andrea B. Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Cat's EarHypochaeris radicata UVP LINK: https://www.ultravio...icata-cats-ear/ Australian LINK: https://keyserver.lu...is_radicata.htm On those green bracts ("phyllaries") underneath the flower you can see a little bit of dark fringe on the tips. That is a key identification point. Note that the Cat's Ear leaves are not the same shape as the leaves of the previously linked Taraxacum. Link to comment
colinbm Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 Cats Ears, Love-it, I'll have to fill my yard up with them......amongst the Cats Nip I will plant too.....ha ha Link to comment
nfoto Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Besides False-yellows, we now have False-dandelions Link to comment
Andrea B. Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 This topic is about a wildflower, not a cultivar. So it belongs in the wildflower section. I will be moving it to the botanical section if Col would like to make a formal entry. I will check with him. Link to comment
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