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#1 dabateman

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Posted 30 May 2021 - 18:15

I can't seem to see anything by Mark anymore. Like this thread:
https://www.ultravio...post__p__14370]

The links are still here:
https://www.ultravio...725-kiwi-uvivf/
So I know I am not totally crazy.

Also can't seem to find some of the older cyan induced fluorescence images by a forum member I can't remember the name of.

Edited by dabateman, 30 May 2021 - 18:18.


#2 Andy Perrin

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Posted 30 May 2021 - 18:18

That link is broken. Mark seemingly removed his own images some time back for reasons he never mentioned. I don't know, maybe he really IS going to make that book, "Mark's Twigs 'N' Berries"!

Edited by Andy Perrin, 30 May 2021 - 18:55.


#3 dabateman

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Posted 30 May 2021 - 18:19

Andy this is the warning I get:
[#103137] You do not have permission to view this topic.

#4 Andy Perrin

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Posted 30 May 2021 - 18:22

David, your first link is full of typos, please fix it.
Here is what the link says, verbatim:
https://www.ultravio...post__p__14370]
See the ellipses and the bracket?

Edited by Andy Perrin, 30 May 2021 - 18:25.


#5 nfoto

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Posted 30 May 2021 - 18:38

Mark deleted the image and his post was set to 'hidden' by admin.

#6 dabateman

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Posted 30 May 2021 - 19:23

Ok that makes sense. Looks like all of Mark's posts are gone.

Edited by dabateman, 30 May 2021 - 19:23.


#7 Andy Perrin

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Posted 30 May 2021 - 19:49

I hope he'll come back and link us if he makes a publication.

#8 nfoto

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Posted 30 May 2021 - 20:00

FYI the UVP admins usually *don't* delete a post, we prefer to set it hidden.

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Posted 31 May 2021 - 03:23

Or sometimes I move either totally out-of-date topics or destroyed topics to a Retired Topics section. If there is a link somewhere to a retired topic in Retired Topics, then it is indeed "hidden" from the membership. But don't worry - you are not missing anything interesting.

I was really upset by the removal of all Mark's photos, just for the record. Mark had done some beautiful work and his write-ups were instructive. Having all that destroyed was so sad. I don't think that posting photos here would detract from any book.
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#10 Andy Perrin

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Posted 31 May 2021 - 05:00

I’m sure he wasn’t thinking of detracting, if it even is about a book, but some places have rules that if a thing has already been published elsewhere then they won’t touch it. I know that’s a thing in scientific publishing anyway.

Edited by Andy Perrin, 31 May 2021 - 05:00.


#11 Shane

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Posted 01 June 2021 - 16:18

I thought when this site was originally setup that posters had to upload images rather than link to them, in order that this exact scenario couldn't happen.

#12 nfoto

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Posted 01 June 2021 - 16:40

Yes you are correct. However, users might on occasion still be able to delete files.

Posting to UVP should in no way conflict with science papers.

#13 Andy Perrin

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Posted 01 June 2021 - 17:41

View Postnfoto, on 01 June 2021 - 16:40, said:

Posting to UVP should in no way conflict with science papers.
That depends on what the journal considers prior publication I think.

#14 Andrea B.

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Posted 01 June 2021 - 20:02

It is hard to imagine that any scientific journal knows we even exist !!

But I certainly understand anyone being cautious if interested in publishing in serious, non-open-access, peer-reviewed scientific journals.
Just let me know before removing any photographs so I can plan a graceful exit for ruined topics!!
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#15 Andy Perrin

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Posted 01 June 2021 - 20:05

Well, and I don't know what traditional coffee-table book kinds of publishers would think about it either (in fact, they might care more if they thought having the photos online would impact their profit somehow). But yeah, I miss Mark's posts too. And Mark!

Edited by Andy Perrin, 01 June 2021 - 20:05.


#16 Shane

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Posted 01 June 2021 - 23:39

Well, I've obviously been away from this forum for too long....who is Mark?

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Posted 02 June 2021 - 00:39

He's him: https://www.ultravio...m-massachusetts

#18 Shane

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Posted 02 June 2021 - 01:22

Thanks, now I recognize him from when he joined. I was a little more active here at that time.