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Lit charcoal and "yellow" flames

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#1 Stefano

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Posted 25 October 2020 - 20:23

Today my dad and I tried to cook some chestnuts on a "barbecue" (a little more than a pan with charcoal). It was a fail, since the chestnuts were too dry. But it provided material for invisible light imaging.

Camera: Full-spectrum Panasonic DMC-F3
Filter: Hoya R72

Lit charcoal glows IR-blue, since its blackbody radiation is heavily weighted towards longer wavelengths, and peaks in the deep SWIR-early MWIR region (roughly around 3 µm).

F-stop: f/2.8, ISO 200, 1/30 s exposure.
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F-stop: f/2.8, ISO 200, 1/13 s exposure.
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F-stop: f/2.8, ISO 400, 1/15 s exposure.
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Then I noticed some flames were IR-yellow. That's odd for a flame. We initially used a chemical to help the flame going (not exactly healthy, but it hopefully burned out, even if we didn't eat the chestnuts), and I think it has an emission line in the 700-800 nm range. Sometimes flames change color depending on the chemical burned. I have seen cyan-green flames when burning some thin residues of plastic from a metal wire I heated to cut a plastic bottle. Yeah, avoid this experiments indoor.

F-stop: f/2.8, ISO 400, 1/400 s exposure (both images).
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Edited by Stefano, 11 April 2021 - 12:52.


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Posted 26 October 2020 - 00:17

Beautiful study Stafano, I like the violet/blues you have captured. The yellow is interesting, a diffraction grating would have been handy....

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Posted 26 October 2020 - 00:27

Thanks colin. Yes, it would have been interesting to see the spectrum of the flame. If I had a diffraction grating with me I would surely have given it a try.

I was once in a supermarket and I was curious whether the ceiling lights were LEDs or HID. I found a diffraction grating in my pocket and took a look. I saw a discontinuous spectrum, which indicated they were HID lamps.

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Posted 26 October 2020 - 05:49

Stefano, That looks cool! I mean hot!, I mean... :wink:

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Posted 26 October 2020 - 11:41

Standing on uts own, I like your last image.
Yes you might have been seeing contaminant in the wood or from your lighter fluid. I remember as a kid throwing in powders into the fire to change the visible color.
Atomic absorption/atomic emmission is fun chemistry.

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Posted 26 October 2020 - 11:59

View Postdabateman, on 26 October 2020 - 11:41, said:

Standing on its own, I like your last image.

So do I.
It has a free-floating abstract touch and would work well on a wall in a frame.

Edited by UlfW, 26 October 2020 - 12:00.

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#7 Stefano

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Posted 26 October 2020 - 12:46

Thank you all!

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Posted 26 October 2020 - 13:21

Channel swapping (BGR) gives this:

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In this image I also tried to fix the color of overexposed areas (which is not white since there is a white-balance apoplied) by replacing it with white (tolerance 10):
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